Ryan Wilson: Sabres most interested in these two Penguins Sabres most interested in these two Penguins

If Botterill were still GM i could guarantee it would be Bjugstad and Murray for Hutton and a 4th

I'm not even sure I'd trade Hutton for Murray straight up with Murray’s QO north of $4m.

McCann is a slightly more offensive Larsson. This is a whole lot of "meh." El paso

If Botterill were still GM i could guarantee it would be Bjugstad and Murray for Hutton and a 4th

I'm not even sure I'd trade Hutton for Murray straight up with Murray’s QO north of $4m.

McCann is a slightly more offensive Larsson. This is a whole lot of "meh." El paso
- jcragcrumple

I thought Murray's qualifying offer was $3.75M?

Although he is ARB. eligible as well.

Everyday I prepare myself for the inevitable Jim Rutherford Panic Trade 2.0

Pretty much everything we'd want from the Sabres we can't have and anything we can have will make us worse for wear. I would not trade with the Sabres.

I thought Murray's qualifying offer was $3.75M?

Although he is ARB. eligible as well.
- kingcong39

Oh ok, my bad. I thought it had to be 10% higher than his current salary. Doesnt really change my thinking at 3.75 vs. 4

Pretty much everything we'd want from the Sabres we can't have and anything we can have will make us worse for wear. I would not trade with the Sabres.
- Victoro311

I'll run this by you, and preface it by saying this is a pure trash-for-trash deal. So consider it in that vein:

Hutton, rights to Laurence Pilut and Okposo for Jack Johnson, Bjugstad and Murray.

Pens save $3m, sabres get new trash

I'll run this by you, and preface it by saying this is a pure trash-for-trash deal. So consider it in that vein:

Hutton, rights to Laurence Pilut and Okposo for Jack Johnson, Bjugstad and Murray.

Pens save $3m, sabres get new trash
- jcragcrumple

How on earth do we save #3 mil there? Yes. lets do it and get Johnson the (frank) out of here so he can't be played. At least they'd scratch Okposo maybe.

What exactly is the upside for the Sabres here? Seems like you're willingly taking on a lot of poop just for Murray, who you didn't sound to thrilled about a couple of posts ago.

They aren't trading Reinhart.

If Risto is coming to Pittsburgh as part of a Murray, Mccan deal then Johnson needs to be going back to the Sabres. I would think the Sabres would also add another piece...

How on earth do we save #3 mil there? Yes. lets do it and get Johnson the (frank) out of here so he can't be played. At least they'd scratch Okposo maybe.

What exactly is the upside for the Sabres here? Seems like you're willingly taking on a lot of poop just for Murray, who you didn't sound to thrilled about a couple of posts ago.
- Victoro311

The Penguins trio makes $11.0 and the sabres duo is $8.75

So it's actually only $2.25

I just want to try some new trash. Maybe Bjugstad has 60 healthy games and can somewhat be a reasonable center. Okposo has 3 years left at $6

The Penguins trio makes $11.0 and the sabres duo is $8.75

So it's actually only $2.25

I just want to try some new trash. Maybe Bjugstad has 60 healthy games and can somewhat be a reasonable center. Okposo has 3 years left at $6
- jcragcrumple

Yeah I guess there is something to be said about how big Okposo's cap hit is. From a practical stand point for us, so long as Jack Johnson is on this team he is going to play, so I just want him off at all costs. The overall cap savings is a bonus.

Yeah I guess there is something to be said about how big Okposo's cap hit is. From a practical stand point for us, so long as Jack Johnson is on this team he is going to play, so I just want him off at all costs. The overall cap savings is a bonus.
- Victoro311

Bueno.

Nice doing business with you

A few of us joked about this trade over the last few blogs. I really hope this isn't becoming a self-fulfilled prophecy. A JJ/Risto pair would most certainly spell doom for the Penguins.

I don't even know that I'd want Miller. I'm very 50/50 on him. He has cracks in his game that I think would be amplified next to JJ.

The Penguins trio makes $11.0 and the sabres duo is $8.75

So it's actually only $2.25

I just want to try some new trash. Maybe Bjugstad has 60 healthy games and can somewhat be a reasonable center. Okposo has 3 years left at $6
- jcragcrumple

Pilut's next deal would be at around $1M or less, while Okposo's cap hit is $6M per.

The trio of Jack Johnson, Matt Murray, and Bjugstad have a combined cap hit of $11.1M.

The Penguins would be 'saving' $4.1M, but if they have no intention of extending Murray anyway, the net difference in savings is $.35M, which is almost nothing.

Bueno.

Nice doing business with you
- jcragcrumple

That is a horrible deal. Why would you even propose that?

I fired J Crag before he could confirm the deal

Pilut's next deal would be at around $1M or less, while Okposo's cap hit is $6M per.

The trio of Jack Johnson, Matt Murray, and Bjugstad have a combined cap hit of $11.1M.

The Penguins would be 'saving' $4.1M, but if they have no intention of extending Murray anyway, the net difference in savings is $.35M, which is almost nothing.
- kingcong39

Shhhhhh you're going to nuke the deal

Shhhhhh you're going to nuke the deal
- jcragcrumple

Good, because the deal sucks.

Shhhhhh you're going to nuke the deal
- jcragcrumple

Nope. It gets Johnson out. I'm still in.

Good, because the deal sucks.
- kingcong39

What about Murray and McCann for Johansson and Mittelstadt? Not sure how much value Mittelstadt has right now, but I remember he showed flashes at times.

What about Murray and McCann for Johansson and Mittelstadt? Not sure how much value Mittelstadt has right now, but I remember he showed flashes at times.
- drummer829

No thank you.

Murray is a depreciating asset and McCann is very much the definition of a vanilla forward.

Everyday I prepare myself for the inevitable Jim Rutherford Panic Trade 2.0
- SuperHenderson13

I wouldn't mind another sequel to the first one.

Avs just lost their series based on questionable goaltending. If I’m JR I’m definitely waiting to see what they do regarding their goalie situation.

i just dont get how unwavering the commitment is on JJ from GMJR. Is it more important to show how right he is instead of admitting he wasnt? And to potentially have 2 versions of johnson? Does sullivan not say "hey, wait a second....." But i would take risto if they took JJ. Just for change.

i just think there are better partners out there to trade with than buffalo. Perhaps Ottawa? They have seven 2nd round picks in the next 2 years. Or calgary? Edmonton?